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	<title>Comments on: Glenn Beck Demands Van Jones&#8217; Head And Obama Hands It To Him</title>
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		<title>By: mcthorogood</title>
		<link>http://pubrecord.org/commentary/4822/glenn-demands-jones-obama-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>mcthorogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While all of us are products of the society that we live in, some of us chose to change society for better or worse.  Like many of us, I went through several stages as I developed my worldview.

Prior to 9-11, I was an engineer immersed in my daily job.  Many of us are caught in the same daily grind without time for much else, especially since real wages have not kept up with the cost of living.  The extra time after work is spent in leisure activities, often watching television.  After 9-11, I ignored Dubya&#039;s advice to just go shopping and instead researched Wahhabism.

I didn&#039;t begin to really wake up until early 2007, until I donned my tin-foil hat and became a Ron Paul supporter.  I was shocked at the blatant corruption, the shadow government, and the various industrial complexes that curtail democracy within our government.  Somewhere, along the way, the ideals of the American Revolution had been co-opted by corporate-personhood.  I was mad as hell and I wasn&#039;t going take it any more.  But along the way I also learned about radical evangelism, politics of deviance, neoliberalism, social justice, climate change, and peak oil.

Finally, I began to realize that we must accept responsibility for the situation in the world today, and to realize that change will not come from above, but from the people below.  Just as the French rejected the birthright of kings in the eighteenth century, people outside the U.S. are rejecting neoliberalism in South America.  Might we look to the people of Oaxaca, Mexico and Honduras as examples of real change?

Glenn Beck is in the stage of being mad as hell.  Many people having little time for much else, listen to and watch Glenn Beck and his ilk, and they too become mad as hell.  People like Van Jones have already reached the final stage and realize that real social change only comes when all people unite for the common good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While all of us are products of the society that we live in, some of us chose to change society for better or worse.  Like many of us, I went through several stages as I developed my worldview.</p>
<p>Prior to 9-11, I was an engineer immersed in my daily job.  Many of us are caught in the same daily grind without time for much else, especially since real wages have not kept up with the cost of living.  The extra time after work is spent in leisure activities, often watching television.  After 9-11, I ignored Dubya&#8217;s advice to just go shopping and instead researched Wahhabism.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t begin to really wake up until early 2007, until I donned my tin-foil hat and became a Ron Paul supporter.  I was shocked at the blatant corruption, the shadow government, and the various industrial complexes that curtail democracy within our government.  Somewhere, along the way, the ideals of the American Revolution had been co-opted by corporate-personhood.  I was mad as hell and I wasn&#8217;t going take it any more.  But along the way I also learned about radical evangelism, politics of deviance, neoliberalism, social justice, climate change, and peak oil.</p>
<p>Finally, I began to realize that we must accept responsibility for the situation in the world today, and to realize that change will not come from above, but from the people below.  Just as the French rejected the birthright of kings in the eighteenth century, people outside the U.S. are rejecting neoliberalism in South America.  Might we look to the people of Oaxaca, Mexico and Honduras as examples of real change?</p>
<p>Glenn Beck is in the stage of being mad as hell.  Many people having little time for much else, listen to and watch Glenn Beck and his ilk, and they too become mad as hell.  People like Van Jones have already reached the final stage and realize that real social change only comes when all people unite for the common good.</p>
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		<title>By: dobropet</title>
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		<dc:creator>dobropet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be right, there are opponents on BOTH sides of the aisle that are worth removing from office and being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. No one political party is better than the other, whether they are neo-cons or neo-progs they ultimately have the same interests at heart, more power.

Defending one over another only allows those being defended the ability to slander or incite derision against the other party thus circumventing the process of discovering the truth whether it be on one side or the other.

It is wrong to attribute Van Jones resignation solely to Glenn Becks efforts, as it is wrong to employ any professed communist into a position of authority in a country based upon the principals of life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. Niether one of the two are correct, it is right to denounce Glenn Beck as an ochestrator in this event, as it is right to call into question Van Jones intentions during his tenure for this adminstration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be right, there are opponents on BOTH sides of the aisle that are worth removing from office and being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. No one political party is better than the other, whether they are neo-cons or neo-progs they ultimately have the same interests at heart, more power.</p>
<p>Defending one over another only allows those being defended the ability to slander or incite derision against the other party thus circumventing the process of discovering the truth whether it be on one side or the other.</p>
<p>It is wrong to attribute Van Jones resignation solely to Glenn Becks efforts, as it is wrong to employ any professed communist into a position of authority in a country based upon the principals of life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. Niether one of the two are correct, it is right to denounce Glenn Beck as an ochestrator in this event, as it is right to call into question Van Jones intentions during his tenure for this adminstration.</p>
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		<title>By: PJBurke</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJBurke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  Glenn Beck could not come anywhere close to that average were he to be 100% right on every issue for the rest of his life.

I&#039;m sure it took lye soap and a wire brush -- maybe even a soak in a bath of tomato juice and white vinegar -- to feel clean again after the slime and stink of Beck&#039;s book.  You&#039;re much more of a servant of humanity -- or much more of a glutton for punishment -- than I.

As for the Van Jones issue, I&#039;m not sure why Democrats never brought up, in retort, the presence of Marvin Olasky in the Bush Administration -- George W. Bush&#039;s spiritual advisor -- who actually joined the Communist Party (in 1972), something Jones never did.  Nor did they bring up Elliott Abrams, an Iran-Contra convict and a El Mozote massacre denier (where an estimated 5000 civilians, including infants and pregnant women, were butchered)... and that was his area of responsibility when he was at State, and so he could have been &quot;flying cover&quot; for American-trained (perhaps also led) assassination squads.  I&#039;m sure there were any number of truly noxious and highly objectionable people in Bush&#039;s administration (in addition to himself and Cheney, of course), but Democrats for some reason haven&#039;t the strength to tell the critics -- as Bush did (often) -- &quot;piss off... he stays.&quot; And they don&#039;t understand that by caving in to that that cry-baby Beck&#039;s demands, he&#039;ll just be -- to a term from not so long ago -- emboldened to go after others, an similarly fabricated garbage. Like McCarthy did, Beck claims to have a &quot;list.&quot; 

But maybe Jones can go full time now into the project of going after Beck&#039;s -- and Fox&#039;s -- advertisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  Glenn Beck could not come anywhere close to that average were he to be 100% right on every issue for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it took lye soap and a wire brush &#8212; maybe even a soak in a bath of tomato juice and white vinegar &#8212; to feel clean again after the slime and stink of Beck&#8217;s book.  You&#8217;re much more of a servant of humanity &#8212; or much more of a glutton for punishment &#8212; than I.</p>
<p>As for the Van Jones issue, I&#8217;m not sure why Democrats never brought up, in retort, the presence of Marvin Olasky in the Bush Administration &#8212; George W. Bush&#8217;s spiritual advisor &#8212; who actually joined the Communist Party (in 1972), something Jones never did.  Nor did they bring up Elliott Abrams, an Iran-Contra convict and a El Mozote massacre denier (where an estimated 5000 civilians, including infants and pregnant women, were butchered)&#8230; and that was his area of responsibility when he was at State, and so he could have been &#8220;flying cover&#8221; for American-trained (perhaps also led) assassination squads.  I&#8217;m sure there were any number of truly noxious and highly objectionable people in Bush&#8217;s administration (in addition to himself and Cheney, of course), but Democrats for some reason haven&#8217;t the strength to tell the critics &#8212; as Bush did (often) &#8212; &#8220;piss off&#8230; he stays.&#8221; And they don&#8217;t understand that by caving in to that that cry-baby Beck&#8217;s demands, he&#8217;ll just be &#8212; to a term from not so long ago &#8212; emboldened to go after others, an similarly fabricated garbage. Like McCarthy did, Beck claims to have a &#8220;list.&#8221; </p>
<p>But maybe Jones can go full time now into the project of going after Beck&#8217;s &#8212; and Fox&#8217;s &#8212; advertisers.</p>
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		<title>By: theyarecrazy!</title>
		<link>http://pubrecord.org/commentary/4822/glenn-demands-jones-obama-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>theyarecrazy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The far right is announcing BECKS SUCCESS and planning more mutiny .. we must have an official statement of our own and comment on all far right sites and fight back !

 -Do not miss the &quot;dark&quot; reference from the bigots! -

Glenn Beck: Van Jones Resigned ‘Under Darkness’
Top-rated Fox News host Glenn Beck, credited with playing the leading role in the ouster of Obama’s Green Jobs Czar,

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/beck_jones_obama_boycott/2009/09/06/256993.html?s=al&amp;promo_code=883A-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The far right is announcing BECKS SUCCESS and planning more mutiny .. we must have an official statement of our own and comment on all far right sites and fight back !</p>
<p> -Do not miss the &#8220;dark&#8221; reference from the bigots! -</p>
<p>Glenn Beck: Van Jones Resigned ‘Under Darkness’<br />
Top-rated Fox News host Glenn Beck, credited with playing the leading role in the ouster of Obama’s Green Jobs Czar,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/beck_jones_obama_boycott/2009/09/06/256993.html?s=al&#038;promo_code=883A-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/beck_jones_obama_boycott/2009/09/06/256993.html?s=al&#038;promo_code=883A-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: dobropet</title>
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		<dc:creator>dobropet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I don&#039;t agree with Beck in most instances, I do agree with some of the people around him that he supports;

Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Walter Block, Lew Rockwell, Pamela Gellar ( This last one occassionally.)

And most if not all of the Austrian school idealists. You are correct in the assumption of his ideals, most of them are ironic and somewhat unwarranted when you get into those specifics.

Yet it was Christopher Dodd who allowed the CEO bonuses to go unscathed, and as private enterprise is concerned there was no existing law to control the amounts handed over to them for their malicious activities. Although I&#039;d believe by now that those that did do business with them are more than entitled to withdraw their support, whatever maybe left, and cripple the giant even further thus allowing for the freemarket dynamic to work.

And as for his book, I hope in all sincerity that it is not based or inspired on Thomas Paine as his eloquence remains, in my mind, unmatched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I don&#8217;t agree with Beck in most instances, I do agree with some of the people around him that he supports;</p>
<p>Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Walter Block, Lew Rockwell, Pamela Gellar ( This last one occassionally.)</p>
<p>And most if not all of the Austrian school idealists. You are correct in the assumption of his ideals, most of them are ironic and somewhat unwarranted when you get into those specifics.</p>
<p>Yet it was Christopher Dodd who allowed the CEO bonuses to go unscathed, and as private enterprise is concerned there was no existing law to control the amounts handed over to them for their malicious activities. Although I&#8217;d believe by now that those that did do business with them are more than entitled to withdraw their support, whatever maybe left, and cripple the giant even further thus allowing for the freemarket dynamic to work.</p>
<p>And as for his book, I hope in all sincerity that it is not based or inspired on Thomas Paine as his eloquence remains, in my mind, unmatched.</p>
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