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		<title>By: dobropet</title>
		<link>http://pubrecord.org/commentary/6036/dont-panic-its-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>dobropet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ziggy12345-  Modern economics is to blame for our plight and it is this that has to be changed.&quot;

I&#039;d agree those modern economics are to blame, Keynes more specifically, being employed relatively easily nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ziggy12345-  Modern economics is to blame for our plight and it is this that has to be changed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree those modern economics are to blame, Keynes more specifically, being employed relatively easily nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you&#039;ve got your head around that, maybe you&#039;ll get back on 9/11 and the rest of the blatantly obvious. Information is information, who gives it to you is irrelevant. Since truthers have been called retards, if a retard tells you there&#039;s a rapist on the loose but can&#039;t explain it very well, you should still check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you&#8217;ve got your head around that, maybe you&#8217;ll get back on 9/11 and the rest of the blatantly obvious. Information is information, who gives it to you is irrelevant. Since truthers have been called retards, if a retard tells you there&#8217;s a rapist on the loose but can&#8217;t explain it very well, you should still check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy12345</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziggy12345</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven’t seen the film yet but have been involved intimately with the subject for 3 years now. Peak oil is one part of the system described as biophysical economics and how the human race, and all life, has been grappling with energy since the dawn of creation. Modern economics is to blame for our plight and it is this that has to be changed. We are at the summit of human existence and from here forward it’s all downhill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t seen the film yet but have been involved intimately with the subject for 3 years now. Peak oil is one part of the system described as biophysical economics and how the human race, and all life, has been grappling with energy since the dawn of creation. Modern economics is to blame for our plight and it is this that has to be changed. We are at the summit of human existence and from here forward it’s all downhill.</p>
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		<title>By: Brecon Quaddy</title>
		<link>http://pubrecord.org/commentary/6036/dont-panic-its-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>Brecon Quaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A useful review marred by the lengthy exposition at the start, which tries to tar everyone involved in highlighting the peak oil issue with the same brush: i.e. we are all a bunch of intolerant, single-issue zealots. 

Well every issue has its lunatic fringe. It&#039;s a shame if Mr Roberts has consistently found himself rattling the cage of  peak oil&#039;s flakier elements. In my experience, most of those concerned about peak oil are quite like me - professionals with families. We read extensively across a wide spectrum of sources, from the oil and gas industry, general news, politics, economics and of course the likes of Heinberg, Campbell, Ruppert, Aklett and others at ASPO, The Oil Drum, etc.

Many of us have invested thousands of hours reading up on money theory, physics, chemistry, economics, international politics, globalisation, and so on, to provide ourselves with adequate context for making our own judgements on peak oil.  

There is now a considerable and growing body of literature on peak oil, produced by the likes of Germany&#039;s Energy Watch Group, Britain&#039;s respected Chatham House policy think tank and a dozen others. &#039;Collapse&#039; is a very important step in raising awareness of the whole &quot;where next?&quot; question facing fossil-fuel-powered industrial civilisation.

But it is nonsense to suggest that &#039;Collapse&#039; represents the point where peak oil (better stated as peak net energy) crosses the Rubicon from being an issue entirely dominated by malign &#039;truth nuts&#039; to one that sensible people can talk freely about over dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A useful review marred by the lengthy exposition at the start, which tries to tar everyone involved in highlighting the peak oil issue with the same brush: i.e. we are all a bunch of intolerant, single-issue zealots. </p>
<p>Well every issue has its lunatic fringe. It&#8217;s a shame if Mr Roberts has consistently found himself rattling the cage of  peak oil&#8217;s flakier elements. In my experience, most of those concerned about peak oil are quite like me &#8211; professionals with families. We read extensively across a wide spectrum of sources, from the oil and gas industry, general news, politics, economics and of course the likes of Heinberg, Campbell, Ruppert, Aklett and others at ASPO, The Oil Drum, etc.</p>
<p>Many of us have invested thousands of hours reading up on money theory, physics, chemistry, economics, international politics, globalisation, and so on, to provide ourselves with adequate context for making our own judgements on peak oil.  </p>
<p>There is now a considerable and growing body of literature on peak oil, produced by the likes of Germany&#8217;s Energy Watch Group, Britain&#8217;s respected Chatham House policy think tank and a dozen others. &#8216;Collapse&#8217; is a very important step in raising awareness of the whole &#8220;where next?&#8221; question facing fossil-fuel-powered industrial civilisation.</p>
<p>But it is nonsense to suggest that &#8216;Collapse&#8217; represents the point where peak oil (better stated as peak net energy) crosses the Rubicon from being an issue entirely dominated by malign &#8216;truth nuts&#8217; to one that sensible people can talk freely about over dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Truax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald F. Truax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TPR

Thanks for this post; my the best come to Mr. Ruppert.

Love &quot;Light&quot; and  Energy

_Don</description>
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<p>Thanks for this post; my the best come to Mr. Ruppert.</p>
<p>Love &#8220;Light&#8221; and  Energy</p>
<p>_Don</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Parente</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Parente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hubbert actually somewhat revised his world peak prediction by 10 years due to the OPEC embargo. You can see him explain it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImV1voi41YY&amp;feature=player_embedded

To the poster who cites nuclear fuels, the main problem there is that we mine those materials with extensive use of oil. The main problem with food isn&#039;t delivery, it&#039;s the fact that our mechanized food production is soaked in oil. Ruppert cites this article he published in FTW: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100303_eating_oil.html
wherein Dale Allen Pfeiffer reports that 10 calories of fossil fuels are required to grow one calorie of food. 

I haven&#039;t seen the movie yet and can&#039;t wait till it comes out on PPV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbert actually somewhat revised his world peak prediction by 10 years due to the OPEC embargo. You can see him explain it here <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImV1voi41YY&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImV1voi41YY&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>To the poster who cites nuclear fuels, the main problem there is that we mine those materials with extensive use of oil. The main problem with food isn&#8217;t delivery, it&#8217;s the fact that our mechanized food production is soaked in oil. Ruppert cites this article he published in FTW: <a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100303_eating_oil.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100303_eating_oil.html</a><br />
wherein Dale Allen Pfeiffer reports that 10 calories of fossil fuels are required to grow one calorie of food. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the movie yet and can&#8217;t wait till it comes out on PPV.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Leopold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Leopold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, I don&#039;t allow personal attacks. I&#039;m sure you can find a way to provide constructive criticism without the ad hominems. I do appreciate your input and passion Jesse. It’s good to see you here. Let’s just keep the conversation civil. Spirited, but civil. Thank you buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, I don&#8217;t allow personal attacks. I&#8217;m sure you can find a way to provide constructive criticism without the ad hominems. I do appreciate your input and passion Jesse. It’s good to see you here. Let’s just keep the conversation civil. Spirited, but civil. Thank you buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Hemingway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zachary Roberts here it the real issue the American public lacks the minimal skills of critical thinking to understand the depth of this criminal enterprise. Peak oil is a physical reality the issue really is not peak oil. The real issue is why has Saudi Arabia from 1980 to the present been allowed to steal from international monetary funds by over stating their oil reserves. George H. Bush, Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and, George W. Bush has been, making a killing literally and figuratively by allowing this criminal active to occur. Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a creation of the intentional misrepresenting of Saudi Arabia oil reserves to borrow money from. Iran and Iraq oil reserves have been controlled by our shadow government since 1952 for sole purpose of the impending transition from Saudi Arabia enormous reserves once they peaked. 

You can draw a direct link to the creation of Al Qaeda and many other terrorist organizations and the funds from BCCI to Al Qaeda one of many references below:

 http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2241_bcci.html

So Zachary Roberts to pass off the entire scope of peak oil is an insult to the world and humanity as a whole. Iraq and Iran’s oil has been the most treasured sacred reserve for many decades. Zachary Roberts if you go to the Bush presidential libraries or the Clinton presidential library you witness first hand what this fucking blood money will buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zachary Roberts here it the real issue the American public lacks the minimal skills of critical thinking to understand the depth of this criminal enterprise. Peak oil is a physical reality the issue really is not peak oil. The real issue is why has Saudi Arabia from 1980 to the present been allowed to steal from international monetary funds by over stating their oil reserves. George H. Bush, Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and, George W. Bush has been, making a killing literally and figuratively by allowing this criminal active to occur. Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a creation of the intentional misrepresenting of Saudi Arabia oil reserves to borrow money from. Iran and Iraq oil reserves have been controlled by our shadow government since 1952 for sole purpose of the impending transition from Saudi Arabia enormous reserves once they peaked. </p>
<p>You can draw a direct link to the creation of Al Qaeda and many other terrorist organizations and the funds from BCCI to Al Qaeda one of many references below:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2241_bcci.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2241_bcci.html</a></p>
<p>So Zachary Roberts to pass off the entire scope of peak oil is an insult to the world and humanity as a whole. Iraq and Iran’s oil has been the most treasured sacred reserve for many decades. Zachary Roberts if you go to the Bush presidential libraries or the Clinton presidential library you witness first hand what this fucking blood money will buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Hemingway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell you this if Barack Obama is smart enough to have Iran take out Saudi Arabia then Barack Obama is smarter then I gave him credit for. 

Article from TPR below:

Fear of Iran is a key factor in Riyadh stepping up its military campaign against the Houthi rebels. 

By Caryle Murphy - GlobalPost
Published: November 14, 2009 
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Saudi Arabia’s ongoing military offensive against rebels in neighboring Yemen — the first time its armed forces have gone into combat in almost 20 years — underscores Riyadh’s deep concern about Yemen’s crumbling internal stability, and the possibility that Iran will exploit the turmoil to spread its influence.

The Saudis’ sustained air-and-ground offensive against the rebels, known as Houthis, is also raising questions about Saudi objectives and how they will extricate their forces from what is a messy and volatile internal struggle in an increasingly dysfunctional state.

“It is hard to know what the Saudis intend to achieve in terms of specific military objectives,” Kristian Ulrichsen, Kuwait Research Fellow at the London School of Economics, wrote in an e-mail. They “would be well-advised” not to get involved in what “is rapidly becoming a failed state” in Yemen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tell you this if Barack Obama is smart enough to have Iran take out Saudi Arabia then Barack Obama is smarter then I gave him credit for. </p>
<p>Article from TPR below:</p>
<p>Fear of Iran is a key factor in Riyadh stepping up its military campaign against the Houthi rebels. </p>
<p>By Caryle Murphy &#8211; GlobalPost<br />
Published: November 14, 2009<br />
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Saudi Arabia’s ongoing military offensive against rebels in neighboring Yemen — the first time its armed forces have gone into combat in almost 20 years — underscores Riyadh’s deep concern about Yemen’s crumbling internal stability, and the possibility that Iran will exploit the turmoil to spread its influence.</p>
<p>The Saudis’ sustained air-and-ground offensive against the rebels, known as Houthis, is also raising questions about Saudi objectives and how they will extricate their forces from what is a messy and volatile internal struggle in an increasingly dysfunctional state.</p>
<p>“It is hard to know what the Saudis intend to achieve in terms of specific military objectives,” Kristian Ulrichsen, Kuwait Research Fellow at the London School of Economics, wrote in an e-mail. They “would be well-advised” not to get involved in what “is rapidly becoming a failed state” in Yemen.</p>
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		<title>By: James Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruppert has peak oil right because the supply is finiite and the desire to consume the stuff strong.  Driving your own car is a thrilling experience that will not be given up too easily.  But he has it wrong on electricity.  Electricity is unlimited -- coal will have to end because of the global warming tipping points:  ocean acidification and the release of frozen hydrates, BUT uranium and thorium are plentiful and can provide plenty of electricity.  There are also wind, solar photovoltaics, geothermal, etc.  There is a need to introduce electric transport to the mobility market just to satisfy the desire to run about.  The heavy transport of goods and FOOD will require new systems to bring the freight closer to where the consumers are located.  Our group is working on superconducting magnetic levitation transport and energy storage systems.  See www.magneticglide.com.  We believe this will be the next system for the movement of freight and to replace domestic aircraft as the oil supply becomes more precious.  Our current systems design can transport people at 10 cents per passenger mile which is substantially less than current aircraft cost per passenger mile about 15 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruppert has peak oil right because the supply is finiite and the desire to consume the stuff strong.  Driving your own car is a thrilling experience that will not be given up too easily.  But he has it wrong on electricity.  Electricity is unlimited &#8212; coal will have to end because of the global warming tipping points:  ocean acidification and the release of frozen hydrates, BUT uranium and thorium are plentiful and can provide plenty of electricity.  There are also wind, solar photovoltaics, geothermal, etc.  There is a need to introduce electric transport to the mobility market just to satisfy the desire to run about.  The heavy transport of goods and FOOD will require new systems to bring the freight closer to where the consumers are located.  Our group is working on superconducting magnetic levitation transport and energy storage systems.  See <a href="http://www.magneticglide.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.magneticglide.com</a>.  We believe this will be the next system for the movement of freight and to replace domestic aircraft as the oil supply becomes more precious.  Our current systems design can transport people at 10 cents per passenger mile which is substantially less than current aircraft cost per passenger mile about 15 cents.</p>
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