As more details are revealed about the background of purported 22-year-old shooter Jared Loughner, who is in custody currently for the shooting in Tucson Saturday of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Arizona), Federal Judge John Rell and a number of others, at least five of whom have died, a number of people are speculating about his possible mental illness. One diagnosis that keeps arising is schizophrenia. It’s worth looking into what that might mean.
Over the course of my psychology career, I have worked with schizophrenic individuals, and most are quite afraid of the world, and are far more likely to be victims than victimizers. However, there are a small minority whose delusions have led them to commit crimes.
I am a licensed psychologist and from afar, and am not in the position to diagnose Mr. Loughner. However, one can make some initial impressionistic comments based upon the video content he posted on YouTube. The autistic, in the sense of highly encapsulated and personal, nature of his thought processes, his emphasis on coercion from without (see his discussion about being taught letters of the alphabet), the strange nature of his logic and language, the paranoid attitude toward the world in general, are consistent with known cases of schizophrenia, paranoid type.
I cannot know if he is the shooter, but his videos do display a garbled mixture of political concerns, and there is a great deal about conscience (“conscience dreams”), about not doing wrong, about the definition of “terrorist”, about “grammar” and “currency”, about “brainwashing” and “mind control”. At times, appears as if he’s grappling with something struggling inside himself.
There are also indications of a sense of multiple internal selves, or a dissociated kind of experience (“conscience dreaming”) that may also mean he had dissociated personality as well. In fact, this combination of dissociated identity and schizophrenia is much more highly associated with violence than schizophrenia alone. Then again, his comments may only appear to indicate such dissociative processes, and be better accounted for by a thought disorder.
If one researches the words “conscience dreaming” online, you will find a YouTube video with that title, not by Mr. Loughner, and no connection with the latter is inferred, except that he may have watched the video. The video concerns three characters, The Agent, The Assassin, and The Dream Maker. There is also one imprisoned anonymous character. I find it quite coincidental to say the least that a phrase the supposed shooter used a number of times links to such a video which has such characters in it.
I would caution against implying any politics to someone who appears so disturbed, as his interpretation of political symbols and phrases are interpreted in a highly idiosyncratic and irrational way. However, if he were susceptible to violence, then the targets available by the given society, i.e., the rhetoric out there in the society, would have pointed him towards liberals, leftists, Muslims, or other minorities, and that kind of rhetoric has mainly been from the right-wing, as has been copiously commented upon.
As for whether such a person could be manipulated, it’s possible, but if he is as insane as he appears, he would have been a very unstable person upon which to base any such conspiracy. I tend to think, despite his talk about mind control and brainwashing, that he was not the subject of any such conspiracy. More likely, these concerns are more about such an individuals anxieties and paranoia about being controlled from without, about things outside himself threatening to invade his personal world. Concern with brainwashing is a common thread in narratives from schizophrenic individuals.
However, this doesn’t mean that mind control conspiracies by the government don’t exist. I’ve documented government documents, including of contemporary vintage, that prove such activity by the government still occurs. If one reads the history of this kind of research, attempts to really use mind control are not applied to schizophrenic individuals, though one does look for highly suggestible individuals, and then apply drugs and hypnosis and other programming techniques. The success or failure of such enterprises is highly classified.
My condolences to all who were affected by this terrible tragedy in Tucson today.
Update:
Here’s an example taken from one of Mr. Loughner’s videos, showing the strangeness of his thinking and language, which is circular, syntactically intact, but with extremely opaque meaning, which relies on repetitiveness. The language implies something very profound, which only the thinker understands:
Firstly, the current government officials are in power for their currency, but I’m informing you for your new currency! If you’re treasurer for a new money system, then you’re responsible for the distribution of a new currency! We now know — the treasurer for a new money system, is the distributor of the new currency. As a result, the people approve a new money system which is promising new information that’s accurate, and we truly believe in a new currency. And above else, you have your new currency, listener?
Second, my hope is for you to be — literate! If you’re literate in English grammar, then you comprehend English grammar. The majority of people, who reside in District 8, are illiterate — hilarious! I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.
This is not the ramblings of a right-wing crackpot, which some have claimed Loughner to be, but gibberish. This doesn’t take away from the possibility Loughner reacted to right-wing propaganda, but quite likely out of madness, not political motivation, such as we understand such motivation.
Originally published on Firedoglake.
Jeffrey Kaye is a psychologist living in Northern California who writes regularly on torture and other subjects for The Public Record, Truthout and Firedoglake. He also maintains a personal blog, Invictus. His email address is sfpsych at gmail dot com.












A Twitter post said he was on antidepressants according to a family member of the shooter.
The Physicians Desk Reference states that SSRI antidepressants and all antidepressants can cause mania, psychosis, abnormal thinking, paranoia, hostility, agitation, etc. These side effects can also appear during withdrawal. Also, these adverse reactions are not listed as Rare but are listed as either Frequent or Infrequent.
Go to http://www.SSRIstories.com where there are over 4,300 cases, with the full media article available, involving bizarre murders, suicides, school shootings/incidents [58 of these] and murder-suicides – all of which involve SSRI antidepressants like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, etc, . The media article usually tells which SSRI antidepressant the perpetrator was taking or had been using but sometimes the media article just says “antidepressant” or “medication for depression”.
On December 15, 2010, PLoS Medicine released a study which showed that, in regard to prescription medications and violence, the FDA had received the most reports of violence from the SSRI & SNRI antidepressants (except for Chantix, the smoking cessation drug.) The evidence of an association with violence was weaker and mixed for antipsychotic drugs and absent for all but one of the mood stabilizers. Yet, the antipsychotics and mood stabilizers, given for the most serious mental illnesses, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, would be the most likely culprit involved in violence but, instead, it was the antidepressants which had the most reports of violence. They were given to patients that traditionally were the least likely to commit violence, the depressed and the anxious. See:
http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=4701
I think “conscience dreaming” is a mistake on his part for “conscious” or “lucid dreaming”, a well-known phenomenon.
It is of course possible to make a gut diagnosis based on copious self-revelatory material plus reports by others. This guy is typical of the paranoid schizophrenics with anger problems I have known. You as a professional may not want yo commit yourself, but I would bet serious money that this will be the main axis.
I don’t know if “conscience dreaming” is a mistake for “conscious dreaming” or not, but to say so is speculation.
As for the possibility that SSRIs were involved in the provocation to violence, I can’t of course say. One wonders if he were truly bipolar psychotic, or schizoaffective, and then given antidepressants, which could have fueled a major manic episode. He still writes in a manner that invites comparisons with schizophrenia. It is difficult under these circumstances, and once it’s entered a forensic arena, to get a clear, unbiased view of the situation.
The right (the usual suspects) is very careful in measuring their words today; William Kristol looked like he was trying to come out of his skin yesterday. Talk about deranged it was agonizing to watch William Kristol on fox. This is what the right wingers live for it is the exact mental weakness Dick Cheney spotted in George W. Bush, he manifested similar mental illness traits voices telling him to attack Iraq.
Crazy is what Crazy does tell me after watching George W Bush on Oprah selling his book. That episode was a text book display of schizophrenic behavior by George W Bush.
This is really a shame! Loughner was trying to get in the Army, was he? It sounds like what happened during the 9/11 period when people were being fed antidepressants and being shoveled into the military…but Loughner’s Army recruiters probably wouldn’t lie for him, because he’s so close to an academy. That one lie may have prevented death…It seems like Big Pharma is working closely with the military to legally kill people and extend the Kingdom to Iraq and Afghanistan. Antidepressants are The Devil! and they took years of my life away…Omission of these drugs on official forms can come back and haunt you…but how do you balance efficacy? They should only be prescribed in dire cases when a loved one has died.