Comments on: Pelosi To Allow Floor Vote On Single-Payer Healthcare Plan http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer Intrepid New Journalism Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:43:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: RETUSAF http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/comment-page-1/#comment-280 RETUSAF Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:32:22 +0000 http://pubrecord.org/?p=3105#comment-280 Some people become doctors to help people. Here's a way to pay doctors, have a set price to pay them and for keeping their patients well and fit they get a bonus. I would like to kill insurance companies, why do we need a middle man to cut out a piece of the pie. In France doctors get all of their schooling is for free. Everyone in and savings on insurance everyone's cost will go down. Hey joesixpack, what if you lose your job? What happens when your kid needs a operation that costs $300,000 to save his life and your insurance says no because you had a preexisting condition. You see the forms you filled out when you got your insurance ten years ago, they never looked them over because they wanted your premiums hoping that maybe you would never get sick. All premiums are non refundable, so your kids gets sick and make a claim and looks like a medical loss for them. Now that look over your paperwork, they employ full time people whom job it is to find something they can deny your claim with. These employees earn bonuses for doing this too. It's all a scram that you're willing to go along with because you think you're covered. Some people become doctors to help people. Here’s a way to pay doctors, have a set price to pay them and for keeping their patients well and fit they get a bonus. I would like to kill insurance companies, why do we need a middle man to cut out a piece of the pie.

In France doctors get all of their schooling is for free.

Everyone in and savings on insurance everyone’s cost will go down.

Hey joesixpack, what if you lose your job? What happens when your kid needs a operation that costs $300,000 to save his life and your insurance says no because you had a preexisting condition. You see the forms you filled out when you got your insurance ten years ago, they never looked them over because they wanted your premiums hoping that maybe you would never get sick. All premiums are non refundable, so your kids gets sick and make a claim and looks like a medical loss for them. Now that look over your paperwork, they employ full time people whom job it is to find something they can deny your claim with. These employees earn bonuses for doing this too.

It’s all a scram that you’re willing to go along with because you think you’re covered.

]]> By: John Wann http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/comment-page-1/#comment-194 John Wann Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:01:52 +0000 http://pubrecord.org/?p=3105#comment-194 All I know is I don’t have healh insurance because I can’t work, I have stress seizures from on the job injury 30 years ago, I have a cyst on my brain, and a tracheostomy with paralyzed vocal cords and I can’t get coverage to help me with my problems because I weigh too much. All this is bullshit! They don’t want you to get well, they want you to keep coming back {recurring income) so the keep us on meds that are addictive and toxic. The father of pharmacology once stated “All perscription drugs are toxic” and that’s why they all have a L50 rating. They don’t want us to get well… They want to get rich off us and keep us powerless and let us die Would somebody please get thier head out of thier ass and start helping the people who need it the most….. Disabled Americans! All I know is I don’t have healh insurance because I can’t work, I have stress seizures from on the job injury 30 years ago, I have a cyst on my brain, and a tracheostomy with paralyzed vocal cords and I can’t get coverage to help me with my problems because I weigh too much.

All this is bullshit! They don’t want you to get well, they want you to keep coming back {recurring income) so the keep us on meds that are addictive and toxic.

The father of pharmacology once stated “All perscription drugs are toxic” and that’s why they all have a L50 rating.

They don’t want us to get well… They want to get rich off us and keep us powerless and let us die

Would somebody please get thier head out of thier ass and start helping the people who need it the most….. Disabled Americans!

]]> By: Joe sixpac http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/comment-page-1/#comment-167 Joe sixpac Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:15:51 +0000 http://pubrecord.org/?p=3105#comment-167 Sure take profits away from insurance companies and drug companies, but doctors still need to be paid. If you want your best in brightest in medicine you can’t undercut their wages. 60% of doctors won't accept Medicaid because the government doesn't pay them enough. maybe the magical democrats can ask doctors to work for 60-80k a year when they leave medical school with student loan debt larger than most people’s mortgage.. A single payer will still need to collect money and pay doctors just like an insurance company. Sure some other governments might make it work, but we are talking about the US government. You know the same one that controls the IRS, social security, and have nearly bankrupted Medicare and Medicaid... I have private insurance because health is important to me and my family. If the insurance company screws up I can at least sue them you can sue the government. I have a 5k deductible because that is what I am comfortable with and it keeps my premiums low. If your just a loser who needs a handout and expects everyone else to pay for your stupid lifestyle choices, then get behind the single payer socialist option. But, if you’re a responsible American and adult who can make their own decisions. You would never let the government take away your freedom and ability to make choices I’ll be dammed if the federal government is going to dictate the kind of health care I purchase. Most people work 3-6 months out of the year for the tax man and now you want to give them more money and control.. soon we will be total slaves to the federal government. Insurance = transfer of risk that is what it is for health insurance is not health care… you use it to protect yourself from doctor bills. You can’t wreck your car and sign up for auto insurance a week later and expect them to fix the damage. So why should health insurance be any different. What if the government mismanages the health care system? What if people stop paying their taxes and you can’t get a free ride? If you want financial security, job security etc I can tell you where to find it LOOK IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE CARES ABOUT YOU… . you can serve 2 years in congress and get a full retirement for life 150k a year and THEY have a different health care plan then they want for you… THINK ABOUT IT… ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR US … BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR CONGRESS… USE YOUR BRAINS PEOPLE… Sure take profits away from insurance companies and drug companies, but doctors still need to be paid.

If you want your best in brightest in medicine you can’t undercut their wages. 60% of doctors won’t accept Medicaid because the government doesn’t pay them enough.

maybe the magical democrats can ask doctors to work for 60-80k a year when they leave medical school with student loan debt larger than most people’s mortgage..

A single payer will still need to collect money and pay doctors just like an insurance company. Sure some other governments might make it work, but we are talking about the US government. You know the same one that controls the IRS, social security, and have nearly bankrupted Medicare and Medicaid…

I have private insurance because health is important to me and my family. If the insurance company screws up I can at least sue them you can sue the government. I have a 5k deductible because that is what I am comfortable with and it keeps my premiums low.

If your just a loser who needs a handout and expects everyone else to pay for your stupid lifestyle choices, then get behind the single payer socialist option.

But, if you’re a responsible American and adult who can make their own decisions. You would never let the government take away your freedom and ability to make choices I’ll be dammed if the federal government is going to dictate the kind of health care I purchase. Most people work 3-6 months out of the year for the tax man and now you want to give them more money and control.. soon we will be total slaves to the federal government.

Insurance = transfer of risk that is what it is for health insurance is not health care… you use it to protect yourself from doctor bills. You can’t wreck your car and sign up for auto insurance a week later and expect them to fix the damage. So why should health insurance be any different.

What if the government mismanages the health care system? What if people stop paying their taxes and you can’t get a free ride? If you want financial security, job security etc I can tell you where to find it LOOK IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE CARES ABOUT YOU… . you can serve 2 years in congress and get a full retirement for life 150k a year and THEY have a different health care plan then they want for you…

THINK ABOUT IT… ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR US … BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR CONGRESS… USE YOUR BRAINS PEOPLE…

]]> By: Nick Steven http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Nick Steven Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:45:18 +0000 http://pubrecord.org/?p=3105#comment-166 And how many people is this going to put out of work. Great plan. Shut down the insurance industry and watch your health insurance go up in flames. And how many people is this going to put out of work. Great plan. Shut down the insurance industry and watch your health insurance go up in flames.

]]> By: Barry Putman http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/comment-page-1/#comment-165 Barry Putman Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:07:20 +0000 http://pubrecord.org/?p=3105#comment-165 My wife and I both vote. We are both Democrats. We both have health insurance through the State of Washington. And we both demand that the Democrats support, work toward, develop and enact single payer health care. The ONLY argument against single payer is that is would cost the insurance companies profits. I'm TIRED of paying profits to the insurance companies. We DEMAND single payer. If our representatives do not work feverishly to enact single payer, we will support alternate candidates with our money and votes. No, we won't vote Repuglican; we will, however, vote for Democrats (or ?) who support this. My wife and I both vote. We are both Democrats. We both have health insurance through the State of Washington. And we both demand that the Democrats support, work toward, develop and enact single payer health care. The ONLY argument against single payer is that is would cost the insurance companies profits. I’m TIRED of paying profits to the insurance companies. We DEMAND single payer. If our representatives do not work feverishly to enact single payer, we will support alternate candidates with our money and votes. No, we won’t vote Repuglican; we will, however, vote for Democrats (or ?) who support this.

]]> By: jacksmith http://pubrecord.org/politics/3105/pelosi-allow-floor-single-payer/comment-page-1/#comment-155 jacksmith Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:04:37 +0000 http://pubrecord.org/?p=3105#comment-155 LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. (Thomas Paine) We have the 37th worst quality of healthcare in the developed world. Conservative estimates are that over 120,000 of you dies each year in America from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don't die from. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Insured and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. This is what being 37th in quality of healthcare means. I know that many of you are angry and frustrated that REPUBLICANS! In congress are dragging their feet and trying to block TRUE healthcare reform. What republicans want is just a taxpayer bailout of the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance industry, and the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare industry. A trillion dollar taxpayer funded private health insurance bailout is all you really get without a robust government-run public option available on day one. Co-OP's ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION. They are a fraud being pushed by the GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance industry that is KILLING YOU! YOU CANT HAVE AN INSURANCE MANDATE WITHOUT A ROBUST PUBLIC OPTION. MANDATING PRIVATE FOR PROFIT HEALTH INSURANCE AS YOUR ONLY CHOICE WOULD BE A DISASTER AND UNETHICAL, CORRUPT, AND MORALLY REPUGNANT. AND PROBABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL AS WELL. These industries have been slaughtering you and your loved ones like cattle for decades for profit. Including members of congress and their families. These REPUBLICANS are FOOLS! Republicans and their traitorous allies have been trying to make it look like it's President Obama's fault for the delays, and foot dragging. But I think you all know better than that. President Obama inherited one of the worst government catastrophes in American history from these REPUBLICANS! And President Obama has done a brilliant job of turning things around, and working his heart out for all of us. But Republicans think you are just a bunch of stupid, idiot, cash cows with short memories. Just like they did under the Bush administration when they helped Bush and Cheney rape America and the rest of the World. But you don't have to put up with that. And this is what you can do. The Republicans below will be up for reelection on November 2, 2010. Just a little over 13 months from now. And many of you will be able to vote early. So pick some names and tell their voters that their representatives (by name) are obstructing TRUE healthcare reform. And are sellouts to the insurance and medical lobbyist. Ask them to contact their representatives and tell them that they are going to work to throw them out of office on November 2, 2010, if not before by impeachment, or recall elections. Doing this will give you something more to do to make things better in America. And it will make you feel better too. There are many resources on the internet that can help you find people to call and contact. For example, many social networking sites can be searched by state, city, or University. Be inventive and creative. I can think of many ways to do this. But be nice. These are your neighbors. And most will want to help. I know there are a few democrats that have been trying to obstruct TRUE healthcare reform too. But the main problem is the Bush Republicans. Removing them is the best thing tactically to do. On the other hand. If you can easily replace a democrat obstructionist with a supportive democrat, DO IT! You have been AMAZING!!! my people. Don't loose heart. You knew it wasn't going to be easy saving the World. :-) God Bless You jacksmith — Working Class I REST MY CASE (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/) Republican Senators up for re-election in 2010. * Richard Shelby of Alabama * Lisa Murkowski of Alaska * John McCain of Arizona * Mel Martinez of Florida * Johnny Isakson of Georgia * Mike Crapo of Idaho * Chuck Grassley of Iowa * Sam Brownback of Kansas * Jim Bunning of Kentucky * David Vitter of Louisiana * Kit Bond of Missouri * Judd Gregg of New Hampshire * Richard Burr of North Carolina * George Voinovich of Ohio * Tom Coburn of Oklahoma * Jim DeMint of South Carolina * John Thune of South Dakota * Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas * Bob Bennett of Utah LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. (Thomas Paine)

We have the 37th worst quality of healthcare in the developed world. Conservative estimates are that over 120,000 of you dies each year in America from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Insured and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. This is what being 37th in quality of healthcare means.

I know that many of you are angry and frustrated that REPUBLICANS! In congress are dragging their feet and trying to block TRUE healthcare reform. What republicans want is just a taxpayer bailout of the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance industry, and the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare industry. A trillion dollar taxpayer funded private health insurance bailout is all you really get without a robust government-run public option available on day one. Co-OP’s ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION. They are a fraud being pushed by the GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance industry that is KILLING YOU!

YOU CANT HAVE AN INSURANCE MANDATE WITHOUT A ROBUST PUBLIC OPTION. MANDATING PRIVATE FOR PROFIT HEALTH INSURANCE AS YOUR ONLY CHOICE WOULD BE A DISASTER AND UNETHICAL, CORRUPT, AND MORALLY REPUGNANT. AND PROBABLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL AS WELL.

These industries have been slaughtering you and your loved ones like cattle for decades for profit. Including members of congress and their families. These REPUBLICANS are FOOLS!

Republicans and their traitorous allies have been trying to make it look like it’s President Obama’s fault for the delays, and foot dragging. But I think you all know better than that. President Obama inherited one of the worst government catastrophes in American history from these REPUBLICANS! And President Obama has done a brilliant job of turning things around, and working his heart out for all of us.

But Republicans think you are just a bunch of stupid, idiot, cash cows with short memories. Just like they did under the Bush administration when they helped Bush and Cheney rape America and the rest of the World.

But you don’t have to put up with that. And this is what you can do. The Republicans below will be up for reelection on November 2, 2010. Just a little over 13 months from now. And many of you will be able to vote early. So pick some names and tell their voters that their representatives (by name) are obstructing TRUE healthcare reform. And are sellouts to the insurance and medical lobbyist.

Ask them to contact their representatives and tell them that they are going to work to throw them out of office on November 2, 2010, if not before by impeachment, or recall elections. Doing this will give you something more to do to make things better in America. And it will make you feel better too.

There are many resources on the internet that can help you find people to call and contact. For example, many social networking sites can be searched by state, city, or University. Be inventive and creative. I can think of many ways to do this. But be nice. These are your neighbors. And most will want to help.

I know there are a few democrats that have been trying to obstruct TRUE healthcare reform too. But the main problem is the Bush Republicans. Removing them is the best thing tactically to do. On the other hand. If you can easily replace a democrat obstructionist with a supportive democrat, DO IT!

You have been AMAZING!!! my people. Don’t loose heart. You knew it wasn’t going to be easy saving the World. :-)

God Bless You

jacksmith — Working Class

I REST MY CASE (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)

Republican Senators up for re-election in 2010.

* Richard Shelby of Alabama
* Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
* John McCain of Arizona
* Mel Martinez of Florida
* Johnny Isakson of Georgia
* Mike Crapo of Idaho
* Chuck Grassley of Iowa
* Sam Brownback of Kansas
* Jim Bunning of Kentucky
* David Vitter of Louisiana
* Kit Bond of Missouri
* Judd Gregg of New Hampshire
* Richard Burr of North Carolina
* George Voinovich of Ohio
* Tom Coburn of Oklahoma
* Jim DeMint of South Carolina
* John Thune of South Dakota
* Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas
* Bob Bennett of Utah

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