Comments on: Nadler Again Calls On Holder to Appoint Special Counsel to Probe Torture

By: johnhkennedy

johnhkennedy — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:04:18 +0000

The Torture Memos were “used to con normally law abiding, patriotic CIA agents and US Soldiers” into violating our existing Federal Torture Laws.

Attorney General Holder’s special prosecutor-trial balloon is designed to try to get away with a very narrowly focused, very limited investigation of only a few criminals who tortured using methods worse than the ALREADY ILLEGAL Torture Methods Approved In The Torture Memos.

Unless we voters get a complete investigation of all the abuses of power and violations of Federal Laws, Holder’s tightly focused, limited investigation of torture that violated the “Bush Cheney Torture Memos” means little or nothing.

The problem here is that Attorney General Holder seems to be leaning toward a very narrow investigation about the “wrong” Torture violations.

SEE our Federal Anti-Torture Law http://tinyurl.com/besdd3

Holder appears to be saying that the Bush “Torture Memos” have the force of law, that the memos became new torture law and that he only has to prosecute violations which were outside of the Torture allowed by the memos. That is false.

The “Torture Memos” themselves are a criminal conspiracy to evade our Federal Anti-Torture Laws and to render our Federal Torture Law moot.

A presidentially appointed lawyer can’t make or change Federal Laws no matter who appoints them. Bush and Cheney attempted to ignore the law and put all who tortured or conspired to torture, even if they meant well (chuckle), at serious risk of prosecution.

We the people have to bring these creeps to justice or this will happen again even when the Democrats are in power (perhaps especially, remember President Johnson and Vietnam and Operation Phoenix, thousands assassinated? The CIA again).

Prosecute all those that tortured in our name, then go after all the other Federal Crimes and violations of our Constitution committed by Bush and Cheney.

“Only Prosecution deters crime”.

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By: Mike Holland

Mike Holland — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:49:03 +0000

Holder said it best… We need to Holder him to his word. It may not be worth the media this comment is written on…

clyde.albright@alamance-nc.com

“Our government authorized the use of torture, approved of secret electronic surveillance of American citizens, secretly detained American citizens without due process of law, denied the Writ of Habeus Corpus to hundreds of accused enemy combatants, and authorized the use of procedures that both violate international law and the United States Constitution,” Holder said in June 2008. “We owe the American people a reckoning.”; Holder

By: Archie1954

Archie1954 — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:01:13 +0000

It’s beginning to look to me as though the new Attorney General may be as compromised and hypocritical as the former ones under Bush. Under law Holder must investigate and if the evidence is sufficient must prosecute. He, under the law has no discretion in the matter. If, in fact, he doesn’t follow the law he will be acting illegally. That is absolutely outrageous for someone who swore as the chief lawman in the country to uphold the law. We shouldn’t even be having this convesation. It should be a given that the attorney General will uphold the law no matter where the chips lie!