Comments on: Cheney Says He May Not Cooperate With Torture Probe if Asked

By: mike gwin

mike gwin — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:12:56 +0000

I just watched “Taxi to the Dark Side”, and I was appalled. The front line personel are taking the heat for obvious direction that came from higher ups. We can not become what we are trying to defeat. The use of torture and “taking the gloves off” was not the invention of front line soldiers. I support the investigations, and I hope to see justice.

By: Cynthia Papermaster

Cynthia Papermaster — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:12:52 +0000

Cheney will be investigated and prosecuted. Mark my word, the man is going to be held accountable and justice will be served. Torture is never legal. The media, public opinion, and the Department of Justice are now actively on the side of accountability for Cheney. The National Accountability Action Network is committed, through its many affiliates and actions, to accountability and justice for the high-ranking officials who established and carried out the illegal policies Cheney masterminded. He is an enemy of democracy and will not be allowed to get away with his crimes. John Yoo, Jay Bybee, Jim Haynes, Donald Rumsfeld, David Addington, Alberto Gonzales and others will be prosecuted as well.
Cynthia Papermaster, National Accountability Action Network, http://www.actforjustice.org

By: Dakotahgeo

Dakotahgeo — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:18:31 +0000

I marvel at the arrogance of Cheneykov and his sad excuse for a reason not to testify fully to the Committee that calls him to testify. Should he suffer a heart atack, revive the SOB and make him talk. If he passes out again, resusitate him numerous times until the SOB woofs what we need to hear. When he gives the evidence and confesses, and apologizes, tazer the old fart into oblivion!!!

By: Thomas

Thomas — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:01:20 +0000

UUUhhh.. Gee.. How does Chainy expect to~~ “Not co-operate”..?? If he is called as a witness,.. will he TAKE the FIFTH..?? Maybe he will wanna to tell the judge to F*–off.. You don’t think the judge will mind..?? Naw… Ex VPs are immune to contempt charges..??..NOT..!!!

Nothing like the DEATH PENALTY to wake the defendants up to whatz occurring..
Talk is cheap and cheap talk is O.K. when it’s a parking ticket, not in capital cases.
Maybe Chainy knows something about hiz bum ticker that we don’t…..Maybe he has been given the sentence already by the doctors….

By: luzmejor

luzmejor — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:18:11 +0000

It has always been obvious that Dick Cheney believes and acts as though he is above the law. That is the primary belief and motivation of every person who is megalomanic.

We have many prominent examples in historical figures.

By: gezzerx

gezzerx — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:24:45 +0000

I strongly agree with the statement … We are Americans… We don’t torture. It does not matter whether torture worked or did not work. The point is the Constitution was violated & International laws were broken.

We do not torture, and torture is a crime, not a technique . If you want to work for a government and want to torture someone, you need to find another country. Government employees take an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution. If you are a government official and torture someone, you have failed your oath to defend the U.S. Constitution and you have broken the law. We do not need or want people working in our government that conducted torture no matter how many excuses, rationalizations, or justifications they come up with.

There is no way anyone can respect the CIA if it rewards torture interrogators with their job. Abscense of morality in any government agency will not result in respect, ether now or in the future. This controversy is not about legal opinions & the CIA its about the CYA mentality of the Bush Administration.

At the Nuremberg trials in 1946, the U.S., England, and France decided that just taking orders is not excuse for torture. Concentration Camp commander’s defended their actions as just taking orders. No doubt Nazi lawyers declared their actions both necessary and legal under German Third Reicht Law. At Nuremberg in 1946, the decision by the U.S., France, and England was unanimous, that a person is responsible for their own actions. No orders or shadow legality is a defense against a complete loss of morality. The trials at Nuremberg set the standard. Just taking orders does not give anyone, not even an American, the right to torture another person . We do not want our country to have Nazi morality standards.

I hope we still have today as much moral strength as our fathers that fought WWII to save our country and save our Constitution. If government officials today trash our Constitution to gain immediate ends, then we have lost any meaningful difference between our enemies and ourselves.

We are America, and We don’t torture. Our Constitution and our morality are worth far more than any information obtained from torture. The ends do not justify the means & there are more intelligent , effective & efficient means to obtain accurate information.

We should also keep in mind that who knew what & when is irrelevant & who did what and when during the Bush Administration is what is important ! Also if true, giving an illegal order to withhold information from Congress by Vice President Chaney is a crime !

We are Americans, and We don’t torture. NO IF ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT ! See title 18 sec. 241 & 242 if you do torture, this is what you can expect from the law. Also see sec. 2441 war crimes . Eventually the US Government will have to do the right thing and bring all those involved in this criminal behavior to justice ! NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW ! It’s time for the the Executive Branch , the Congress & the Courts to do their duty weather they want to or not & uphold our Constitution & the rule of law. Then & only then can we put this dark pain full period behind us & move forward .

By: Hank

Hank — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:49:58 +0000

Cheney -is- above the law. He will not be prosecuted and he will not spend a day in jail for all the things that he has done/ordered.

The US is not a nation of laws anymore and the idea that any of the principals are going to face jail is unbelievably naive.

If even one of the principals would be held accountable, there would be no reason not to hold all the rest accountable. So either they all need to be held accountable or no one will. You can see where this is going.

By: SP Biloxi

SP Biloxi — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:54:31 +0000

Amazing.. Cheney still thinks that he is above the law if he is probed by the Special Prosecutor. And Cheney will still claim that he has Executive Privilege. Obama Administration knows the game that Cheney will play to skate any charges as the public has been wanting for so long. And I just read on Raw Story that Senator Feinstein is criticizing Holder for having a torture probe. With a very weak Congressional leaders and Senate that are divided and some that benefitted in profit from the two wars and playing politics, it is very differcult for the public to want justice for Cheney and Bush for war crimes in this country.

I look for more international countries to investigate and charge Cheney ,Bush, and others in the Bush Administrsation with war crimes. If that happens, I hope President Obama will not interfere with an international country investigation into war crimes nor protect Bush, Cheney, and the Bush Administration and follow the international law.

By: The United States Constitution

The United States Constitution — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:22:31 +0000

Article 3, Section 3 – Treason

Giving Aid and Comfort to the Enemies of the United States.