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	<title>Comments on: High Court Urged to Reject White House Appeal to Keep Abuse Photos Secret</title>
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		<title>By: vince martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vince martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember back in the late 70s early 80s when I was in the military; in the aftermath of Vietnam we got training on what a unlawful order  is; what to do if you get one;  and the consequences if you obey it. We also saw a silent film made by US troop during the liberation of Auschwitz in ww2. 

It was stuff you have never seen on TV and nobody said a word for 45 min.   

My young wife is serving in Iraq right now and she has made it clear to me that she got no such training. She thought I was making it up, but the older soldiers in her unit remember. 

It is clear that the decision to leave out this training was made at the top so as to create the situation  documented  in the photos. 

Unlike Vietnam  and other past conflicts which had relative journalistic transparency; this has been an invisible war... a media vacuum into which our husbands, wives and children disappear. And this lack of public oversight has most likely led to &quot;yet to be revealed atrocities&quot; which outstrip those of past wars. 

(Of all people senator Lieberman should know this.)

Now we are offered a unique chance.... to make a choice between supporting our collective ideals as a people... as Americans, and protecting a group of powerful individuals from suffering the consequences of their bad decision. 

We are already hated over there because like the Viet Cong and others before them they most likely know what we are doing. The with hold of  facts is clearly an attempt to keep the truth from the American people so as to influence our decisions. 

I do not want to endanger my wife or any of our troops over there.  I want  her home and safe for her sake for myself and  our daughter.  

But  I also want the sacrifices of our loved ones  on the altar of incompetence to mean something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember back in the late 70s early 80s when I was in the military; in the aftermath of Vietnam we got training on what a unlawful order  is; what to do if you get one;  and the consequences if you obey it. We also saw a silent film made by US troop during the liberation of Auschwitz in ww2. </p>
<p>It was stuff you have never seen on TV and nobody said a word for 45 min.   </p>
<p>My young wife is serving in Iraq right now and she has made it clear to me that she got no such training. She thought I was making it up, but the older soldiers in her unit remember. </p>
<p>It is clear that the decision to leave out this training was made at the top so as to create the situation  documented  in the photos. </p>
<p>Unlike Vietnam  and other past conflicts which had relative journalistic transparency; this has been an invisible war&#8230; a media vacuum into which our husbands, wives and children disappear. And this lack of public oversight has most likely led to &#8220;yet to be revealed atrocities&#8221; which outstrip those of past wars. </p>
<p>(Of all people senator Lieberman should know this.)</p>
<p>Now we are offered a unique chance&#8230;. to make a choice between supporting our collective ideals as a people&#8230; as Americans, and protecting a group of powerful individuals from suffering the consequences of their bad decision. </p>
<p>We are already hated over there because like the Viet Cong and others before them they most likely know what we are doing. The with hold of  facts is clearly an attempt to keep the truth from the American people so as to influence our decisions. </p>
<p>I do not want to endanger my wife or any of our troops over there.  I want  her home and safe for her sake for myself and  our daughter.  </p>
<p>But  I also want the sacrifices of our loved ones  on the altar of incompetence to mean something.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Slaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Slaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece.  I guess it&#039;s true about power: once you have it, it&#039;s pretty unlikely you&#039;re going to relinquish it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece.  I guess it&#8217;s true about power: once you have it, it&#8217;s pretty unlikely you&#8217;re going to relinquish it&#8230;</p>
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